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<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">我之所以发这个贴子<span lang="EN-US">,</span>主要是想要广大留学生朋友们擦亮眼睛<span lang="EN-US">,</span>对本国学生来说<span lang="EN-US">,</span>有可能他们是不错的老师<span lang="EN-US">,</span>但是对海外学生而言<span lang="EN-US">,</span>在某些所谓老师的人眼里<span lang="EN-US">,</span>留学生不过是一群可以肆无忌惮玩弄分数游戏敛财的金牛而已<span lang="EN-US">.<op></op></span></span></p>

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<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">我是学金融的，ＡＣＣＹ９０１是必修课之一，这门课以前在国内学过，而且工作当中也用过，记的上这门课时还辅导过几位读会计的小兄弟，ＤＲ<span lang="EN-US">ANNE </span>从头到尾总共<span lang="EN-US">fail</span>我三次<span lang="EN-US">,</span>更缺的是三次的分数从第一次到第三次尽然依次是<span lang="EN-US">49,34,45.</span>有点常识的都知道这种情况是不合逻辑和常理的<span lang="EN-US">.<op></op></span></span></p>

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<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">第一学期我刚来澳洲没多久<span lang="EN-US">,</span>语言关还没过<span lang="EN-US">,</span>加上这门课学过做过<span lang="EN-US">,</span>也就没当回事<span lang="EN-US">,</span>一学期这门课大概总共花了几天时间<span lang="EN-US">,</span>不过考试时还是知道的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>许多题都没懂<span lang="EN-US">,</span>主要还是刚来的语言问题<span lang="EN-US">,</span>所以结果也大致心里有数<span lang="EN-US">,49</span>有些吃惊<span lang="EN-US">,</span>出来后也没去和<span lang="EN-US">ANNE</span>联系<span lang="EN-US">,</span>心想还是要好好学习<span lang="EN-US">.<op></op></span></span></p>

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<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">第二学期又读<span lang="EN-US">901,</span>老实说还是花了工夫的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>结果出来<span lang="EN-US">34,</span>坐不住了<span lang="EN-US">,</span>填了张表去和<span lang="EN-US">ANNE</span>见了面<span lang="EN-US">,</span>当时一起看卷子就觉得有点不对劲<span lang="EN-US">,</span>大多数计算都是对的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>所有简答基本都是零分<span lang="EN-US">,</span>当时问她很多观点是对的怎么没分<span lang="EN-US">,</span>她说没论述清楚也没分<span lang="EN-US">,</span>当时想想没论述清楚责任也在我<span lang="EN-US">,</span>于是<span lang="EN-US">review</span>到<span lang="EN-US">ANNE</span>就打住<span lang="EN-US">,</span>认了<span lang="EN-US">,</span>再读<span lang="EN-US">.<op></op></span></span></p>

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<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">第三学期还是<span lang="EN-US">901,</span>最后一学期了<span lang="EN-US">,</span>工作也有点眉目了<span lang="EN-US">,</span>还是很下工夫的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>不过学期中的一次<span lang="EN-US">assignment</span>结果出来让我感到还是有些不对头<span lang="EN-US">,</span>这个<span lang="EN-US">assignment</span>每个学期都有<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我有幸做了三次<span lang="EN-US">,</span>前两学期的是<span lang="EN-US">group,</span>这次是<span lang="EN-US">individual
,</span>但是内容要求基本一样的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>结果分数出来大不一样<span lang="EN-US">,</span>这个事我问过<span lang="EN-US">ANNE,</span>我问她为什么同样内容要求的作业前两学期分都很高这次却没过<span lang="EN-US">,</span>她先是这样狡辩的<span lang="EN-US">:</span>因为前两次是<span lang="EN-US">group</span>这次是<span lang="EN-US">individual,</span>我说内容和要求都是一样的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>和几个人做没多大关系<span lang="EN-US">,</span>她接着说这是不同的公司<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我说虽然是不同的公司<span lang="EN-US">,</span>但写法是一样的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>只是换了公司名和数据及结论而已<span lang="EN-US">,</span>她楞了会最后说这学期<span lang="EN-US">assignment</span>不是她改的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>既然不是她改的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>前面的什么<span lang="EN-US">group,individual,</span>不同的公司这些所谓的理由又从何谈起<span lang="EN-US">? </span>这事后我知这学期还是凶多吉少<span lang="EN-US">,</span>果然不出所料<span lang="EN-US">45.</span>这次我有点明白了<span lang="EN-US">,</span>做为一个老师如果看你不顺眼或出于其他目的想存心折腾你很容易的<span lang="EN-US">.</span>我去找<span lang="EN-US">ANNE,</span>我申请重审我三个学期的期末考试卷<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我认为<span lang="EN-US">49,34,45</span>不合逻辑不合情理<span lang="EN-US">.ANNE</span>说这要花很多时间<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我说我可以等<span lang="EN-US">,</span>并问她一个学期够不够<span lang="EN-US">?</span>她没说话<span lang="EN-US">.</span>我向校长投诉这件事<span lang="EN-US">,</span>最后在<span lang="EN-US">Sub-dean
Mr Ron</span>那里看到这次的考卷<span lang="EN-US">,30</span>道选择对了<span lang="EN-US">19</span>道<span lang="EN-US">,</span>大部分计算题是对的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>虽然有些并没有按她考前说的按步骤给分<span lang="EN-US">,</span>绝大部分简答还是零分<span lang="EN-US">,</span>观点对也是零分<span lang="EN-US">,</span>吸取<span lang="EN-US">34</span>的教训<span lang="EN-US">,</span>这次论述尽量写满还是零分<span lang="EN-US">,</span>最后一道简答我记的很清楚<span lang="EN-US">,</span>定性分析对企业管理的好处是什么<span lang="EN-US">?</span>我国内好歹也是<span lang="EN-US">211</span>正规管理硕士毕业的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>这种问题哪有所谓的标准答案<span lang="EN-US">.<op></op></span></span></p>

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<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">虽然她<span lang="EN-US">fail</span>我三次<span lang="EN-US">,</span>但是最后这次我是向校长向卧龙岗大学各级分管领导投诉<span lang="EN-US">ANNE,</span>想来对她影响也不小<span lang="EN-US">,</span>所以在<span lang="EN-US">Sub-dean
Mr Ron</span>处看到第三次的卷子后<span lang="EN-US">,</span>虽然对简答题的评分保留看法<span lang="EN-US">,</span>但心一软<span lang="EN-US">,</span>回去后就给<span lang="EN-US">ANNE</span>写了封道歉信<span lang="EN-US">,</span>并且把这封信转给了校长和其他领导<span lang="EN-US">,</span>这封信是这样的<span lang="EN-US">:<op></op></span></span></p>

<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">Dear Anne: <br/>
Good evening <br/>
I had already compared my final exam papers with standard answers,It is my
problem,You are a very good teacher,i misunderstand you,i accept this result. <br/>
I make a apology for you for this thing,Sorry Dr Anne,Give you lots of trouble
just because of my stupid actions.Please accept my apology. <br/>
I take responsible for this result by myself.I had already enrolled ACCY901
again,i will try my best to get a p in this spring session. <br/>
Sorry! <br/>
Best wishes <br/>
Your sincerely <br/>
<br/>
12/07/07<op></op></span></p>

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<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">事后我和我律师朋友说起这件事<span lang="EN-US">,</span>他说你太天真了<span lang="EN-US">,</span>在某些人眼里<span lang="EN-US">,</span>海外学生只是最好的金牛而已<span lang="EN-US">,</span>悉尼晨锋报上也曾有相关报道<span lang="EN-US">,</span>笔头动一动玩玩分数游戏就可以为学校大把敛财<span lang="EN-US">,</span>何乐而不为<span lang="EN-US">?</span>出了国门就是走上社会<span lang="EN-US">,</span>不能用国内老师和学生的那套来看这边的情况<span lang="EN-US">,</span>当然这边也不是所有的老师都坏<span lang="EN-US">,</span>有很多还是很正直很有职业道德的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>甚至也有顶着压力不愿对学生做这些事的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>但是不可否认某些所谓老师是热衷于这种事的<span lang="EN-US">.<op></op></span></span></p>

<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">我的律师朋友给我两个建议<span lang="EN-US">:<op></op></span></span></p>

<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">第一<span lang="EN-US">,</span>对留学生来说<span lang="EN-US">,</span>和学校的关系也是一种消费者和商家的关系<span lang="EN-US">,</span>你出费用<span lang="EN-US">,</span>他提供相关教育服务<span lang="EN-US">,</span>澳洲有保护消费者权益的公平交易委员会<span lang="EN-US">,</span>如果你认为学校通过玩弄分数游戏达到不正当敛财的目的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>可以向公平交易委员会投诉<span lang="EN-US">,</span>而且这个委员会通常站在消费者的立场<span lang="EN-US">;<op></op></span></span></p>

<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">第二<span lang="EN-US">,</span>可以直接向法庭以欺诈以达不正当获利起诉<span lang="EN-US">.<op></op></span></span></p>

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<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">我考虑良久<span lang="EN-US">,</span>自己也是卧龙岗毕业<span lang="EN-US">,</span>好事不出门坏事传千里<span lang="EN-US">,</span>捅到社会上对谁都不好<span lang="EN-US">,</span>但是这样不了了之好象对自己也不是太公平<span lang="EN-US">,</span>影响了工作生活安排<span lang="EN-US">,</span>浪费了时间精力和金钱<span lang="EN-US">,</span>如果成为不良之徒分数游戏的牺牲品而忍气吞生<span lang="EN-US">,</span>忍的没多少道理<span lang="EN-US">,</span>所以希望这件事还是校内解决比较好<span lang="EN-US">,</span>最起码卧龙岗对这件事也要给我一个交待<span lang="EN-US">,</span>于是在对第三次期末考试虽然保留意见但是仍然道歉的情况下<span lang="EN-US">,</span>又一次向<span lang="EN-US">Sun-dean Mr Ron</span>提出<span lang="EN-US">review</span>的要求<span lang="EN-US">(</span>注意这次只是向<span lang="EN-US">the school of accounting and finance</span>提申请<span lang="EN-US">,</span>还是希望这件事小范围解决<span lang="EN-US">),</span>信是这样的<span lang="EN-US">:<op></op></span></span></p>

<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">Dear Ron: <br/>
Afternoon! <br/>
I continue to apply something to make sure it is justic for me: <br/>
1.review my first times final exam papers; <br/>
2.compare my last times final exam papers with other students. <br/>
The same teacher and the same subject,marks standard should be the same,i hope
it is also my problem,i hope i can trust Dr Anne, misunderstand her. <br/>
Thanks so much <br/>
Best wishes <br/>
Your sincerely <br/>
<br/>
23-07-07<op></op></span></p>

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<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">这封申请交过后就没有回音了<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我的律师朋友给我建议等我确定从卧龙岗毕业后再进一步申请<span lang="EN-US">,</span>否则他随便给你个答复的话你不从也得从<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我想想也是<span lang="EN-US">,</span>于是等到这个月<span lang="EN-US">18</span>号后又和<span lang="EN-US">Sub-dean Mr Ron</span>联系<span lang="EN-US">,</span>具体信件就是朋友们在<span lang="EN-US">12</span>月<span lang="EN-US">27</span>号异彩贴子看到的<span lang="EN-US">.<op></op></span></span></p>

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<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">最后谈谈我对<span lang="EN-US">901</span>及<span lang="EN-US">Dr Anne</span>的个人看法<span lang="EN-US">:<op></op></span></span></p>

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<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">901</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">在<span lang="EN-US">Dr Anne</span>的领导下<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我只能说对玩弄分数游戏敛财到了肆无忌惮的地步<span lang="EN-US">,</span>异彩网我很少上<span lang="EN-US">,</span>不知道有没有朋友反映<span lang="EN-US">,</span>不过我接触的<span lang="EN-US">901</span>的实情却是轮流松紧<span lang="EN-US">,</span>这学期猛<span lang="EN-US">fail</span>过半<span lang="EN-US">,</span>下学期松一松<span lang="EN-US">,</span>再下学期再死<span lang="EN-US">fail</span>过半<span lang="EN-US">,</span>再下学期松一松<span lang="EN-US">,</span>同样的老师同样的课不同的标准<span lang="EN-US">,</span>这不叫玩分数游戏这叫什么<span lang="EN-US">?</span>不为了钱为什么<span lang="EN-US">?</span>是不是对本国学生也是这样<span lang="EN-US">?</span>教学质量是必须的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>但以质量为名行敛财之实<span lang="EN-US">,</span>这不叫无耻这叫什么<span lang="EN-US">?<op></op></span></span></p>

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<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">我和<span lang="EN-US">Dr Anne</span>接触过几次<span lang="EN-US">,</span>每次很不愉快<span lang="EN-US">,</span>不知有没有这方面的个人原因<span lang="EN-US">,</span>第一次是第一学期刚开学没几周<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我进卧龙岗晚了两周情况不清楚<span lang="EN-US">,</span>她的<span lang="EN-US">tutorial</span>没赶上注册<span lang="EN-US">,</span>但每次课是上的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我还担心这个事<span lang="EN-US">,</span>所以每次上<span lang="EN-US">tutorial</span>都确定点名纸上有我名字<span lang="EN-US">,</span>大概三周后有同学告诉我光<span lang="EN-US">tutorial</span>上有名还不行<span lang="EN-US">,</span>还要到<span lang="EN-US">Anne</span>那里注册<span lang="EN-US">,</span>于是去她办公室说明情况<span lang="EN-US">,</span>她看电脑里<span lang="EN-US">tutorial</span>没我名就说你这门课这学期<span lang="EN-US">fail</span>了<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我确定我没拉一节<span lang="EN-US">tutorial</span>并坚持点名表上有我名<span lang="EN-US">,tutor</span>可以做证<span lang="EN-US">,tutor</span>是个印度小伙子人很好<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我和他联系过他说的确有你名<span lang="EN-US">,</span>于是<span lang="EN-US">Anne</span>加我进电脑<span lang="EN-US">,</span>但是说下次就没人帮我了<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我至今不知这话什么意思<span lang="EN-US">.</span>其他几次就是交涉考试了<span lang="EN-US">,</span>印象里很能狡辩<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我记的最后一次见她是申请<span lang="EN-US">review</span>第三次考卷时<span lang="EN-US">,</span>当时我前面有两位女生<span lang="EN-US">,</span>当第二位女生进去后<span lang="EN-US">,</span>门是开的<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我听见她笑着对第二位女生说第一位女生刚才都要哭了<span lang="EN-US">,</span>她说别人要哭了时真的很开心<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我不知当时第二位女生听到这话怎么想<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我对其职业道德及品行很打折扣<span lang="EN-US">.<op></op></span></span></p>

<p align="left" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 宋体;">请问各位朋友<span lang="EN-US">,</span>我是否应该向法院或公平交易委员会起诉卧龙岗大学<span lang="EN-US">?<op></op></span></span></p>

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关键词：金融硕士 Responsible Individual assignment Understand 必修课 留学生 小兄弟 金牛 朋友

呵呵。这哥们只能说是自认倒霉了。。。。

可怜，其实出国真的不能盲目啊

看着英文信写得，真的是出自金融硕士之手吗？！

以下是引用wang8499在2008-1-14 4:27:00的发言：

呵呵。这哥们只能说是自认倒霉了。。。。

坚决去抗争

    道理还是一样，哪里都有好人坏蛋。希望这只是个个例现象。我同学在悉尼大学读会计，没天都要打工，而且是从英文跨专业过去，每门都过，希望这个情况会更普遍～

这英文写的。。。我怎么觉得像刚学英语不久啊。。。

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和老师的关系非常的重要，另外大学本身的监管机构没有起到作用。 external examiner好象一点权利都没有。 这样的事， 刚一发生就要据理力征。千万不要等到生米已经煮成熟饭了。 我还有认识的人， 学校开始叫他叫学费， 后来反悔要他多交，说以前的学费不算。老外就怕把事情闹大。 学校不行， 可以试全国的学生组织。

我觉得当事人的英文很好，可能真的是他运气不好吧， 被老师blacklist了。

这个帖子有点意义,可以从另一方面了解外面的情况